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Windows Vista and QB45

Post by rjunier » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:02 pm

How can I run programs developed in QB45 on Windows Vista 64-bit?

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Post by izidor » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:15 pm

First off you posted you topic in the wrong place, you should have posted it in "QBASIC Questions & Answers" but ok.

As far as I know you can run your programs on Vista but you can't use graphics so it's pointless, but you can check out QB64. Basically it's compiler for BASIC code (QBASIC).Some commands are not implemented yet, but there is a small number of them.

Here is QB64 website:

http://www.qb64.net/




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Post by angros47 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:06 am

Or you can download and use DosBox

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Post by burger2227 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:44 pm

DOSBOX sucks! It slows down many programs.

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Post by BDZ » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:41 pm

burger2227 wrote:DOSBOX sucks! It slows down many programs.

Use when desperate only!
True, DOSBox slows stuff down. However, it actually emulates everything...an x86 cpu, graphics, multiple sound cards. etc. So the awesome thing is that you can use other versions of it (there's versions linux, MacOS, Solaris, etc) to run your DOS games on OSs with zero DOS compatibility.

Plus, I like the way it lets you run DOS programs in a window on newer machines with LCD monitors. Low-res pixel art graphics always look bad full screen on an LCD.

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Post by burger2227 » Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:08 pm

DOSBOX does that and Windows 64 can't? Why would people buy that crap? DOSBOX is NOT the problem! Microsoft is!

New Windows 7 has an XP mode you can use so WHAT was so bad about XP anyhow? M$ was not making ANY MONEY on that anymore! So why not tell mommy and daddy that Windows versions don't get newer, they just make life more expensive and complicated. Most people use VERY LITTLE of what they already have or add anyhow. Windows 3.1 could run DOS and their windows at the same time.

Nobody needs 64 bit unless they are calculating the national budget in 2020 or they want their computer to play XBOX games!

M$ has been trying to hide DOS since the ME version. They resent people using Qbasic because they wanted to kill it in favor of VB.

$$$$$$ is the name of the game...
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Post by Nodtveidt » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:49 am

burger2227 wrote:$$$$$$ is the name of the game...
Of course it is. You don't become a multi-billion dollar company by continuing to support "ancient" operating systems and technologies, you can only do it by forcing people to "upgrade" to whatever new toy they come out with. And with each successive release, hardware requirements grow astronomically, and the system gets slower. That's why I've cast my lot with FreeBSD instead...not only is it completely free and can run most Windows programs (with Wine) better than Windows itself, but it gets faster with each subsequent release.

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Post by Pete » Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:33 pm

Microsoft isn't trying to kill QB / DOS, there's just no market for it anymore. Why develop backwards compatibility if only a handful of users are gonna ever use it? They have much bigger fish to fry...like building a good web browser for instance.

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Post by burger2227 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:21 pm

When you get a new car like I just did, the technology is updated and the user does not even notice most of it. From a technical or programming point of view, you need to work with that technology whether it is DOS or 64 bit.

I STILL see no great reason for moving to a 64 bit system! What is the great need? It is more useless at this point than the "old" DOS will ever be. So they created NTVDM and blocked user access to ports and "sensitive" areas of the system. Then the toss us .NET before they even made it compatable with Vista.

Unlike the OS, IE Explorer does not change its name. One would think that better browsers would just evolve! Microsoft does NOT create better anything while it keeps re-writing the rules. So don't expect a better browser any time soon. It doesn't even fix half of the holes from the previous one.
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Post by Nodtveidt » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:05 pm

Pete wrote:...like building a good web browser for instance.
They've been at that for years and still can't get it right.

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Post by qbasicfreak » Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:43 pm

That's why I stick with Firefox ;-)

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Post by burger2227 » Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:34 pm

There are a LOT of things Firefox is lacking too! I got rid of it after an update made it worse.

IE still is the preferred web page browser for most sites. It's biggest problem that I have found is that it hogs memory like most other TSR Windows programs. REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT!
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Post by Mentat » Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:18 am

burger2227 wrote:There are a LOT of things Firefox is lacking too! I got rid of it after an update made it worse.

IE still is the preferred web page browser for most sites. It's biggest problem that I have found is that it hogs memory like most other TSR Windows programs. REBOOT, REBOOT, REBOOT!
Ubuntu has been getting really bad in needing to reboot all the time. If feels like every week it keeps on fussing at me about updates needing the system to shut down.
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Post by Nodtveidt » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:01 pm

If you're having a problem with Firefox, then your computer sucks. It's that simple. :P Firefox only lacks where IE-specific zealots live and breed like fork rabbits.

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Post by Mentat » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:06 pm

There's always Lynx.
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Post by Nodtveidt » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:25 pm

I think burger2227 uses that... :)

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Post by burger2227 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:43 pm

NO WAY! I don't use LINUS and probably never will. It's an OS built for nerds to play with. I don't wanna have to keep up with all of the crap they have to install to even use it. Too experimental for me!

The fact is that 90% of the websites created today are IE compatable. NOT FF compatable and a lot of useful things are still lacking in FF.

So I guess I'm still stuck with Windows. I hope they get Windows 7 working better than XP and Vista or my days programming in DOS are numbered.

Plus I'd have to learn all of those LINUS commands.... :roll:
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Post by Mentat » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:46 pm

Lynx is a web browser. Linus Torvalds is the guy who wrote the first Linux kernel. :P
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Post by burger2227 » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:03 pm

Well he should have used his real first name and used Snoopy as his mascot! 8)
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Post by Mentat » Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:11 pm

"Don't fear the Penguin." -/.

Tux is a perfectly good mascot. Could lose a little weight though.
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