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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:22 pm
by Z!re
Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:Ok, so now MOORPG is a program in QB thats a HUGE world with nice grass, moving water, and no core...Oh yeah its 300MB! I love it! Woo!
:roll:
Go ahead and try doing it yourself.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:35 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Ummm....Rattra its I don't consider it a language because its nothing more than a markup language or what you would call a style/font/tabulate language which is no language. It's something to make something look pretty. Where are the variables? arrays? functions?etc. etc. etc.

No seriously, I taught myself HTML in only 8 hours! Now Javascript is a language....

Z!re I was just kidding that probaly took a lot of time and didn't mean to insult it. Oh yeah, I would want to do something like that.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:58 pm
by Nodtveidt
The L in HTML means "language". Considering it "programming" is different though. It's certainly not procedural programming by any means, but it's more than just writing up a document in MS Word. To that effect, it's programming, but at a much lower level.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:09 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
I agree but a MUCH LOWER LEVEL.
BTW: HTML stands for (If memory serves), HyperText Markup Language

But when I write up something on MS Word I don't call it programming. And since HTML is along the same level as MS Word, why start calling it programming there. Its not programming. Its a program. Its just not as user-friendly as MS Word.

BTW anyone realize that were talking about HTML and not QB again? He, he, go figure, we have short attention spands. :lol:

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:24 pm
by Nodtveidt
Some people who have no balls prefer to make webpages in MS Word. I call them cowards. :D Others prefer to write HTML code in Notepad or another editor. I call them webpage programmers. :D See the difference? :)

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:46 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
I do it in an editor that is like notepad, you write all the code yourself, but you can see the result by not even having to put it online, yet!

Oh, yeah Frontpage sucks...
It puts in too many unnecessary HTML tags.

Mind you that I still don't consider HTML a programming language, so webpage programming is ONLY programming when you include javascript, or another scripting language. Javascript is a C and HTML hybrid, it has C based programming, but HTML tags that are the Standard Objects, or what we call DOM.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:53 pm
by Nodtveidt
Frontpage is browser abuse... :?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:12 pm
by Z!re
In which way is HTML not script programming?



When you produce a sequence of letters/words/bytes that make a computer/machine perform a given task. You have programmed it.

HTML is no more or less programming than ASM.
In the meaning of the word that is.

Ofcourse, different types of programming languages/methods require different amount of knowledge, HTML being one of the easier :P

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:14 pm
by Rattrapmax6
HTML in Notepad, you can do QB in the Notepad too, lol,. You prob knew that already, hehe!,. Be nice if you have a FreeHTML, like FreeBasic or something colorful...

Yeah, I found a online tut, I'm going to rewrite my web site with HTML, and put it on my FTP space,. notepad doesn't take up 20megs as fast as AOL's auto HTML editor thing.. :wink:

PS: If you got windows, and your using NotePad,. save a copy under "Filename.html" and put in any folder you want. Use Enternet Explorer and switch it to search you hard drive,. you can see your site b4 you put it online. :D :wink: I tried this bout a few hours ago, work right well, corse I've havn't tried with images yet.. :mrgreen:

:mrgreen: < Hehe, that emoticon, so weird, but so funny. :lol:

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:52 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Rattra, try The Free HTML Editor by CoffeeCup.

It has a color sceme!

Oh yeah, Z!re would you consider RPG Maker II programming? OR When you use Microsoft Word programming?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:01 pm
by Rattrapmax6
Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote: Oh yeah, Z!re would you consider RPG Maker II programming?
:shock: Umm Mitth... Have you ever used RPG Maker II?? I has it's own language in it, you have to program it to get it to do things, otherwise, you have no RPG,.. :wink: And trust me, that lil built in language can get right advance.

8) It's better than it sounds, and your programming in PS2!!! :D

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:23 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Ummm...I wasn't meaning to imply that it was in...
The fact that I said whether he thought RPG Maker II OR MS Word as programming was ment as which he considers a language.

I consider RPG Maker II a language, but not Word therefore not HTML.

That was my point.

Oh, yeah LOL :lol: . Were up to, lets see... :shock: ...131 posts AND 7 pages!!!! Wow, Thats a record, I wonder how many pages per thread this forum can handle? He, He....*Mit's face has an evil look* :twisted: !

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:30 pm
by Z!re
To program = To make an object perform a certain task.

You can program a human, or a dog, or a car, or a computer, or a tree...
etc...


So, in the meaning of the word, you can program in MS Word, provided you make the computer perform a given task (and not just displaying letters, because that is not you, that would be MS Word itself)


And dont bother, there's no limit on number of pages, it's just an increasing counter, I'd say it's set to 3 or 4 digits, meaning 999 or 9999 pages max.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:37 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Z!re wrote:So, in the meaning of the word, you can program in MS Word, provided you make the computer perform a given task (and not just displaying letters, because that is not you, that would be MS Word itself)
Ummm...Z!re all you do in HTML is what you do in Word...Just you write down the code, and not click buttons, which write it for you...Also word has a simmular DOM to IE.
Z!re wrote: And dont bother, there's no limit on number of pages, it's just an increasing counter, I'd say it's set to 3 or 4 digits, meaning 999 or 9999 pages max.
Oh there's a limit to how much memory this site can hold....If its unlimited, then there's always how much memory the internet can hold before it CRASHES! He, he, he :D . But I'll think we will either die before then or get the pages above a 10000. So lets see, were at 7 right? only 9993 pages to go!

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:47 pm
by Z!re
Ok, so I dont code then, I just write letters, I don't actually induce the current into the CPU. Silly me.

Mitth, just look up the damn word "Programming", trust me, HTML is programming, or actually, scripting, if you want to be picky.

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:20 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Yes, Z!re your right....if you want to be VERY technical.

You see this post IS in essince HTML, It has all of the tags as the HTML.

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:19 pm
by Rattrapmax6
You might be able to use HTML in here, or it says you can...


<IMG SRC="http://members.aol.com/rattrapmax6/images/xtr.bmp">


^ If you see the code, it must not have worked,. if you see my logo, IT WORKED! :D !!!

Say, heres some RPG Maker II code 4 ya...

Code: Select all

001   Text: Clear Message
002   Script Branch: Sort: Variable |System Generat..
003     Script Branch: Apply If: Number is + 0
004     Text: Message |Who are you talking to?|
005     Script Branch : To End
006   Script Branch: Apply If: Number is + 4
007     Text Content: Input: Dysplay |Leader Name|
008     Script Branch: Condition: Flag |Sample Flag|
..ect...
T :) hat was some Error prog sent with it,. corse you don't type this, but you got tons of menus of code, and you have to know what they do... Better this way, typing with remote sucks!! :D Oh, sept Text: Message,. you have to type the message. :cry:

Hehe,. I think this forum info links back to the PHPBB site thing, I'm not sure,.. but we'll sure use the heck out of this thread!!

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:28 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Well it worked. :twisted: Now I can do HTML on here! He, he!
:shock: I wonder if Javascript works on here too? :wink:

I'll try it later. 8)

Notice how we strayed from QB again....lol :lol:

I wonder if this has a limit? :roll:

BTW, Rattra I'm right behind you in posts! Exactly 6 posts!

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:32 pm
by Rattrapmax6
Well,. the codes

<html>
<body>
<p>

don't work,. oh well, I don't know what others don't work, but they say not all will. :wink:

PS: Edit: :shock: , I betta pick up the pace! 6?!?

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:45 pm
by Mitth'raw'nuruodo
He, Yep.

I wonder If I can't make a game and put it in here....

I'll have to test Javascript....Ummm....How do you know that the <Body> and <Head> tags don't work?