Ofcourse you "tried"
But obviously you didnt do enough.
I'm not blaming anyone, I'm stating a fact..
When a forum goes downhill, the admins are supposed to step in and correct it.. Thats their job, thats what they are there for.
The admins and mods of QBN didnt/couldnt fix things.
It's as simple as that..
Ofcourse you can say you expect more of the members, but if you did, why do you have rules in the first place, and/or admins/mods?
You expect people to break the rules, which is why you have the rules* and the admins to enforce them.
If plantasy got spammed, or there were flamewars daily, we (as in me, zap or kitten) would hand out warnings, and if it goes on, just ban the people who dont follow the rules.
This is hypothetical, PS dont have any forum.
A proof of the bad handling from te admins of this whole situation is when I got banned.
Sure, I've done LOTS of things to warrant warnings which could have gotten me banned a long time ago.
But I never got any warnings (yes I know I did long time ago, I mean recently)
And wildcard has admited he only banned me because I was a "PIA", I dont blame him.. I am a pain in the a.. but giving me an instant ban was not warranted.
And if you think about it, the only reason I was a pain was because I told you (read: the admins of qBN) to start acting and do something about the situation.
Ofcourse people will react if you ban someone they like for no reason, so people reacted.
And things went way out of hand, wildcard was unable to handle it, and shut the forum down. Again, I dont blame him for that, I think it was childish, and could have been done in other ways, but I understand why he did it, same as with banning me.
Adding the forum didnt really help, because QBN is such a strict place (compared to others) and I dont say that as something bad.
The debate forum quickly became a haven for personal insults.
It was just a matter of time before people started sneaking in hidden messages in their posts in the other subforums.
And some people caught it..
Now, assigning VonGodric as a mod was a step in the right direction.
But why wasnt it done earlier?
If you are still admin on QBN, you can check the PM logs, and see I PMed wildcard twice about it, he assigned VG the day after the second PM
Wildcard again tries to fix the situation by revising the rules.
It means he is blaming the members for the situation, people dont like being blamed for things they feel they didnt do.
All of the members of QBN had become used to the flames and personal insults, it was the way of the forum, and for about 6 months, the admins did nothing (that helped) about it.
Suddenly, you tell them all they've done wrong, after 6 months..
Ofcourse people go a bit mad and ask: Why the hell didnt you say so earlier, before we got here?
And thats where you as admins went wrong. You didnt do anything (read: not enough by far)
I've broken the QBN rules, I've cursed, gone around the wordfilter, flamed and personally insulted people.
I didnt get a warning for either one.
What I did get a warning for, back in the day, was my open post about AAP, almost two years ago.
And one warning in regards to the whole TBBQ bussiness, which got removed.
Oh ya, just remembered, my thread about FireSwordSoftware, where the other members carried it way out of hand, and I got warned for being the topic starter.
It too got removed.
So why didnt you admins follow your own rules?
I mean, I deserved a lot of warnings, just like a lot of other people.
We never got any..
Then, the owner and founder of the site breaks the three warnings rule and instantly bans me.. for what?
Being a "PIA" to him?
Ofcourse I am, I wanted QBN saved.. I think I sent three or four PMs to wildcard about it, he ignoed them all, and my public posts, and banned me instead.
Just my two cents about admins.
If yu dont act from the beginning, be very very carefull when you act later.
* "which is why you have the rules*"
What I mean is not that rules are meant to be broken. What I mean is you dont expect people to behave on their own, the rules are there to guide us, and t help you correct violations without people saying: Hey, I didnt know!
NOTE: I bring up wildcard banning me because it shows how far the situation had gone. The owner of the site knew it had gone to hell, literally, and banned the one who spoke out about it and demanded he do something.
And like I already said you (read: qbn admins) have had lots of reasons to warn and ban me, but didnt.
EDIT: We can both agree that I broke the QBN rules, correct?
So, if you "DID" so much, why didnt I notice, as being, apparently the only person who is such a "PIA" that I deserve an instant ban (meaning the admins broke their own rules)
So, what "DID" you do that changed it all and made it the members fault?
You made a few posts in the admin section?
Good for you.
I have left this dump.